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There's a panel at Lunacon this weekend called "Where are the Fen?" The description is:
Bringing SF readers to cons seems harder than ever... how do we reach them? How does a generalist con continue to attract an audience when their interests are no longer stigmatized, the Internet allows them to connect to other fen year round, and specialized events dig deeper into individual fannish interests?

Wow.

Just -- wow.

Okay, first of all, I have to disclose that the people who've been in charge of running Lunacon the past few years are friends of mine, and I appreciate the crapshit situation they inherited.

Having said that....

SF is more mainstream and SF fans can communicate better with each other, and you think that makes it harder to attract people to your con? Really?

Conventions in general seem to be doing quite well. On the large scale, San Diego Comic-Con, Dragon*Con, Fan Expo, and New York Comic-Con keep growing every year. On a smaller scale, Arisia, MarsCon, and MystiCon have all outgrown their hotels in recent years (and Arisia's in danger of outgrowing the current one), Balticon is still pootling along nicely, Geek Media Expo is growing, and so on. All of those that I just listed are "generalist" conventions (as opposed to, say, Farpoint, Polaris, and Shore Leave, which are also doing well attendance wise, but are really media cons).

So, no, it isn't "harder than ever" to attract fans. And the fact that this question is being asked is a pretty scathing indictment..........

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shanejayell From: shanejayell Date: March 14th, 2013 06:41 pm (UTC) (Link)
That fits my experience as a anime fan. Cons, in general, seem to be getting bigger and bigger...
xenaclone From: xenaclone Date: March 14th, 2013 07:47 pm (UTC) (Link)
Not much of a problem here in the UK either.
jslinder From: jslinder Date: March 14th, 2013 10:56 pm (UTC) (Link)
The answer is simple. Offer something that people want that they CAN'T get online and do it well. Be it author interactions, gaming, whatever.

I will say that niche cons are probably draining a small amount of people from generalist ones, given the economy, people have to choose more often...

infinitydog From: infinitydog Date: March 15th, 2013 05:01 am (UTC) (Link)
Count me among the ranks of the "alienated pros" who lost patience with Lunacon years ago. And I say that as someone who, with John Ordover, once took on the job of programming that convention just to show them that it could be done correctly, if anyone gave enough of a fuck to try.

But frankly, unless they do something to really turn it around and make it a must-attend con for professionals (both editors and authors), and then start making it worth pros' time to attend (i.e., comping hotel rooms, or offer something besides comping membership in exchange for doing four panels), I just don't see the point of spending a weekend of my valuable time helping to add value to their shoddily run convention.
pseudohistorian From: pseudohistorian Date: March 15th, 2013 05:42 pm (UTC) (Link)
I'm not familiar with the specifics of Lunacon, but this sounds a lot like the problems with the long-running local "generalist" convention in Winnipeg--where I also once ran Programming to prove a point (which went unheeded). After years of effort (and expense), I ultimately stopped seeing the point of spending a weekend there, so I stopped going after 2007 and haven't missed it.

Based on what you're saying, it sounds like you'd feel the same way about Lunacon. The very fact that they're using the term "fen" in their panel description shows that they have an old-fashioned take on cons/fandom, which is at odds with the audience they're trying to attract.
buddykat From: buddykat Date: March 16th, 2013 05:26 pm (UTC) (Link)
So other than some of the huge mega-cons (Dragon*Con, SDCC, etc.), what other conventions have comped hotel rooms for program participants who are NOT Guests of Honor?

Because quite frankly, none of the conventions I have worked and/or have friends that work on (across the country) comp hotel rooms to program participants.


Disclaimer: I am currently one of the people running Lunacon. We don't claim to be doing the best job ever, but we are trying to improve things.
tigerbright From: tigerbright Date: March 15th, 2013 10:04 am (UTC) (Link)
I've felt alienated from big gencons for a while. Which is a shame, because I DO miss seeing friends in person.
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